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These red cherry tomatoes attached to green stalks in a precise order on my kitchen table don’t look like they exist in that neat setup because they evolved or mutated from an earlier non tomato and that they were naturally selected while other other tomato setups didn’t survive.

We might just think about the red tomatoes but the green stalks are part of the whole. So it would mean that the tomatoes were naturally selected at the same time as the green stalks that hold and keep them together. Then there are all the chemicals in them that would have to have evolved at the same time as all the above.

Similar of course to bunches of bananas and the millions of other fruits and vegetable set ups. The problem though always comes back to how did the first ones come to be. Those tomatoes have seeds in them that can produce more tomato plants. The seeds have an ability to make more tomato plants.

Was and is the idea of evolution and mutations and natural selection just an invention to help with the frustration in us because we can’t think in any way about how those tomatoes and the plant parts they are growing on exist. It’s back to thinking about whether the chicken or the egg came first. And we can’t come up with anything. Same with the acorns that fall from an oak tree.

When we look at that acorn that falls from a giant oak tree we might think that the tree is the important part and that the acorns are made to produce a new oak tree. They are. But when we look at a tomato plant we might think the tomatoes are the important part. But the tomatoes are are like the acorns in that they contain the seeds to make a new plant. Working on. Think i’ve lost the plot. Doesn’t matter. But every part in a plant or tree or an animal goes to making the whole of them.

Then there are our thoughts with how the teeth configurations in millions of animals are so exact. They fit in every mouth of every animal so precisely. A baby human grows 20 teeth that all fall out a bit later to make way for a second set of 32. How does our evolution theory have anything to do with that. Teeth are exactly squeezed in every different sized mouth on earth.
We could simply think that teeth do what teeth do along with the gums and mouth that they they fit into , and not invent the idea that somehow that happening evolved.
There is again of course the formation of just a tooth , it’s constituents and shape. In simplicity , the tooth just either evolved or it didn’t evolve,. We’d have to believe it evolved or it didn’t.
It’s hard to get beyond the thought that we have about it to explain the thought that the tooth did or didn’t evolve because the idea of evolution of it happening is there. The word evolution is a monumental word that carries the idea that teeth and fruits with seeds evolved.

It would of course go on and on with thoughts like this , but this isn’t about what or why fruits and teeth do what they do , it’s just that it seems more that none of them surely rely on some imaginary evolution process to do be and do what they do.

One last thought on this. The eyebrows , conveniently situated above the eyes of humans have remarkably uncannily survived since we were monkeys. They send sweat and rain water around the eyes and also down over the nose. The eyebrows also soak up some sweat and release into the air too so it doesn’t go into the eyes. And we’re also left with eyelashes that do probably endless things like dealing with insects and dust. Don’t know.

But how are we left with eyebrows and eye lashes that protect the eyes after being monkeys or apes when most of the fur and hair that we had as monkeys or apes once had has gone. It would mean that most fur was naturally deselected and that the eyebrows and eye lashes have remained.

That would be some extraordinary monumental reliance on something like natural selection. Very much like imagining that legs and feet evolved and became good for walking. It seems more likely that the ability to walk comes before legs and feet and the eyebrows exist to protect the eyes.

Surely eyebrows exist to do what they do , and legs and feet exist to do what they do , and eyes and ears exist to do what they do. No natural selection or natural deselection and no evolution of them at all. Our imaginary ideas about how they exist are only our imagination of thinking how they come to be and any idea that we have come up with so far is pure conjecture. And of course we can’t think outside of our thinking. We could wonder why we can’t think outside of our thinking and also make conjectures about that , but we know absolutely that the conjectures we come up with are restrained by what we are able to think about . Even thinking about our thinking about our thinking is restrained.

That’s possibly why we are content to accept evolutionary ideas. Could almost include that we have evolved to accept the best thoughts on how we exist. So we have nothing in reality to go on. Maybe one day a new species will be able to do other thoughts.

Infact , when we see the layers of the earth with different and new animals appearing over time we would have to surmise that a new species is going to occur in the future. It absolutely will happen. We can’t predict what the new species will be , but it surely will happen. We can in some way think out of our thoughts to know that new animals will exist in the future. Many species have existed in the past and many have gone extinct. Problem is that our evolution theories are backed up with scant evidence. If our evolution ideas were any good we’d be able to predict the next new species.The next new species though will come about. Chances are that the new species also won’t know what they themselves are about.

For now though , one phone call to another planet though could help. More on that later , although obviously I’m not going to come up with how we make that phone call.

Then stretching it a bit , we have television and window curtains and temperature thermometers and cars. That’s human inventions using the resources available. To be able to do any of them has nothing to do with evolution so nothing at all has evolved. And today might be no more important than tomorrow or yesterday. We don’t know if any of these time concepts exist. Any ones instant in anyone’s thinking in just this moment in time is a whole thing. Every animal is at this moment experiencing the now.

What is astounding is that each animal is singular. Each animal is surviving on it’s own , sometimes nightmarishly having to live. Astounding too is how a single human can have to think about what they are. Why are we so singular and in this position. And what for. No idea. ( Will delete that miserable thought later)

Back on trees though. They might be an entity. In other words , trees could have always been trees and may have never evolved from say a blade of grass. Of course though that still leaves all the where did it come from and how , and it’s seeds etc, but settling on an evolutionary idea could and seems to be totally wrong. After all , again , how did the tree know that carbon was available in the air to form itself. Then again I suppose the blade of grass would have had to have known about the carbon in the air and we could say it evolved into the tree.

But even then , we get almost nowhere with our thoughts about it. We’d have to assume that in the seed is something that makes the plant or tree make more seeds when it turns into the whole plant or tree. So in the seed there is the something that makes sure the tree or plant that it turns into , makes new seeds. Is the seed acting alone though. We can’t look at a seed and see what’s in the seed that makes it turn into whatever. I suppose after that though , it would be why would a tree want to be a tree and so on.

Simple evolutionary thoughts don’t help at all and there is no evidence of it at all to support some evolution process. Clearly , acorns that successfully grow into an oak tree have never relied on evolution and like everything else are are not products of evolution.

A fruit or a leaf seem to need to be a certain look and composition and shape. We can look at one or the other and try to imagine that they needed from an earlier time a process to be what they are. But it is our conjecture that they were at some point different to what they are today and so we say they evolved. Of course they once didn’t exist , but it’s very difficult to look at a tomato and not think that it was deemed to be , with or without evolution.

Next chapter. The simple eye spot on a single cell.

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